CBD During Pregnancy & Other Questions Answered (Podcast)

Episode 51 August 25, 2020 00:32:16
CBD During Pregnancy & Other Questions Answered (Podcast)
The Ministry of Hemp Podcast
CBD During Pregnancy & Other Questions Answered (Podcast)

Aug 25 2020 | 00:32:16

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Show Notes

Is it safe to use CBD during pregnancy? That’s just one of the listener questions we address in today’s episode of the Ministry of Hemp podcast.

It’s time for another Question and Answer show where the MOH team answers questions from listeners. For the first time on a Q&A show, our host Matt and Editor in Chief Kit are joined by Drew, who manages our brand partnerships and helps us with our CBD reviews, both behind the scenes and as a writer too.

While we’re not doctors, Drew explains what the latest research suggests about CBD during pregnancy, though there’s still a lot we don’t know. The panel also talks about CBD dosage and how to read CBD labels, and using CBD with dogs.

Kit also answers a listener’s questions about the differences and similarities between kratom and CBD. Finally, the trio have a lively discussion of “ditch weed” and whether it was just wild hemp, based on some research into wild hemp in Kansas by our recent podcast guest Kelly Rippel.

What is the effect of taking CBD during pregnancy? Photo: A woman in a pink dress cradles her pregnant stomach in both hands. An image of a hemp leaf is superimposed on her belly.Research into the effects of CBD and other cannabinoids during pregnancy is still ongoing.

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CBD During Pregnancy & Other Questions Answered: Complete episode transcript

Below you’ll find the complete transcript of episode 51 of the Ministry of Hemp podcast, “CBD during pregnancy”:

Matt Baum:
I’m Matt Baum and this is the Ministry of Hemp podcast, brought to you by ministryofhemp.com, America’s leading advocate for hemp and hemp education.

Matt Baum:
Welcome back to another episode of the Ministry of Hemp podcast. I apologize, I missed last week. Life gets in the way sometimes, but here we are. And today on the show, I’m going to make it up to you by answering your hemp questions that you guys leave on our voicemail. You can call us at any time, 24 hours a day, 402-819-6417. Now I just want to stress we’re not selling hemp or CBD or anything like that, so don’t call asking how to buy it. Now if you want any advice on brands and whatnot, you can find that all over ministryofhemp.com and I encourage you to go there and use it that way. But we’re not selling CBD.

Matt Baum:
We’re also not the phone number to call if you want to network with us or perhaps you’re a brand that wants to work with us. That’s not the place to do it. This phone number is for people that want answers to their hemp questions. How much do I take? What’s a good brand? Will this help me sleep? Did I buy garbage? These are all great questions you can ask. Call and leave your question. Don’t leave me your phone number and asked me to call you back. I’m not going to do that, but what I will do is I will answer your questions on the show. And today, I’m super excited because I don’t just have Kit O’Connell, our editor in chief, answering questions, we are also joined by Drew De Los Santos. I affectionately refer to her as our brand ambassador, but you’ll hear she has an actual title and she’s really good at it. So let’s get into it.

Introducing Drew

Matt Baum:
Okay. I am back with our editor in chief, Kit. Say hello, Kit.

Kit O’Connell:
Hey, everybody.

Matt Baum:
And we have a new guest that’s going to help us out today. This is Drew, and we were discussing her title before this because we wanted to sound really professional, so we decided on brand ambassador. Was that it?

Drew De Los Santos:
Brand manager, thank you.

Matt Baum:
Brand manger. Okay.

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah. But hey everybody-

Matt Baum:
Ambassador makes you feel like royalty, right?

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah.

Matt Baum:
So what do you do at Ministry of Hemp? Just a quick, little breakdown.

Drew De Los Santos:
I basically work with all of the brands that we review and make sure that we get all of our products tested as well as just helping along the flow of the magazine to make sure from start to finish things get tied up nicely. And sometimes I also do product reviews.

Matt Baum:
That’s awesome. You’re going to help us today in answering some questions, but as you’ve heard, Drew works directly with the brands. We are not a brand. And I’m just saying that because we get a lot of calls for people saying, “I want to buy something.” We’re not selling anything. We are pushing education. So there you go. And if you are a brand, call and ask for Drew. We’ll get you set up.

Drew De Los Santos:
I will say happy to talk with them and happy to be here.

Understanding CBD dosage and labeling

Matt Baum:
Awesome. Let’s get started. Our first one comes from Gregory in Florida.

Gregory:
Yes. My name is Gregory and calling y’all from the state of Florida here. I was just wondering if you can give me some additional information with regards to CBD oil. It’s very confusing when you look at the 2,000 milligrams of hemp and then they have at the bottom of that bottle 66, I don’t know exactly, 66 milligrams of the extract. So I was just wondering, how does that equate from a 2,000 to 66 milligrams? And then also I found out that the CBD oils, some of them are very thick and others are watery. So I know that there are lots of different compounds that are being put into these oils. I was just wondering if you can address some of these issues.

Matt Baum:
Okay, I’m going to stop him there, because he gives his phone number and we don’t need everybody calling our friend Greg. But basically, this is a great question. And we have done this one before, but I think it’s really good to reset, because CBD labels can be very confusing if you don’t know about this stuff. And it sounds like he has got a 2,000 milliliter bottle, basically.

Kit O’Connell:
Milligram.

Matt Baum:
Pardon me, milligram bottle. Thank you, Kit. And it also says 66 milligrams on it, which is confusing him. Kit, can you help clear this one up a little bit?

Kit O’Connell:
Yeah, it is confusing. And the first thing to say is that there are no standards in CBD labeling currently. There’s no authority. The FDA hasn’t issued any standards for CBD. We’re waiting on that as of right now. So brands are left up to themselves how to do it. But in this case, 2,000 milligrams, what you probably have there is a one ounce or 30 milliliter bottle, and each dropper full out of that, each dropper if you fill it to the top that’s one milliliter. So there’s 30 of those in the bottle. So if you divide 2,000 milligrams by 30, you get 66 milligrams, which is how much you’d get if you took a full dropper-full of CBD, which for some people is a normal dose. Some people it’s a high dose. We always of course say, start low and go slow.

Matt Baum:
Right?

Kit O’Connell:
The other half of the question was about the consistency of the oil, and that’s an interesting question. I don’t think that has much to do with what your actual CBD extract in there. It could be good, it could be bad, but they take that extract and then they mix it. The majority of what you’re taking is a carrier oil, and that can be hemp seed oil or it could be something called MCT, which is like a coconut-based oil usually. Occasionally it’s still palm based. And so when you’re looking at that, that’s just, it’s based on how they’ve taken an extract and mixed it into an oil, and it’s just personal preference whether you like a thicker or a thinner oil.

Matt Baum:
It’s not necessarily a mark of quality is what you’re saying.

Kit O’Connell:
Right, exactly. Yeah.

Matt Baum:
Okay.

Kit O’Connell:
You can have a thick oil or thin oil and that’s just a qualitative thing about it, but you still could have a really good quality oil that could be thick or thin.

Matt Baum:
So the most important thing to really look for is one, is there some type of dosage map on the label? And it sounds like this one is, and you cleared that up really well. Thank you. Two, do they have results, lab results that are available for this product? And it might be a QR code or a website you can visit on the bottle. But those would probably be the two biggest things you want to look for, right?

Kit O’Connell:
Exactly. And beyond that, it’s going to be personal preference. It’d be like those ones that tastes a little thin or the ones that have a thicker consistency.

Matt Baum:
Right. Or like different flavors are added to some of them. Other companies use a very natural flavor. That can turn some people off. I kind of dig it, personally.

Kit O’Connell:
I feel like a hemp sommelier sometimes, coming up with ways to describe all the different hempy flavors like [inaudible 00:07:44] or earthy, or greater grassy. I love all the flavors, too.

Matt Baum:
Drew, where do you come down on flavors?

Drew De Los Santos:
I definitely love a lemony, terpene-heavy type of flavor, but then of course, every so often a brand will come out with one that has a good overlay of some other flavor. I mean, I really do like citrusy, but I don’t mind the hempy flavor either.

Matt Baum:
Yeah, I really like it, actually, and I feel like some of the brands when they get out there with like the mango strawberry and stuff, I get a little … It freaks me out. It starts to taste really fake, you know?

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah. It can be too much if they add too many different flavors.

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Drew De Los Santos:
I was going to say, though, I haven’t really tried an oil that’s very liquidy. So if it’s super watery, that’s a little concerning to me, just because I haven’t really tried a brand that has that type of consistency.

Matt Baum:
Yeah, I’ve had some that are thinner, but I don’t know that I would describe them as liquidy. I suppose that could worry me a little bit. But then again, maybe that’s just the adjective that he chose.

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah.

Matt Baum:
I think more importantly, research the company, make sure that they have lab results, find something that tastes good to you, and know what your dosage is and you’ll be okay.

Kit O’Connell:
Yep.

Matt Baum:
All right. Moving right along.

CBD and dogs

Speaker 5:
Hey, guys. I heard your recent show about CBD and about dogs with arthritis. Are there any brands you would suggest and what kind of dosage would you suggest for an 80-pound dog? Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work.

Matt Baum:
Okay. I really like this question and we just did a show about CBD helping dogs with arthritis because of the anti-inflammatory properties. Now, with that said, there isn’t a whole lot of studies out there about animal pain and CBD yet. The story that we just talked about on the show, this would have been our last episode, was a very promising study, and so promising that they’re doing more and it looks like they’re going to be able to publish some real results, which is great. Now that doesn’t necessarily help you. I would say again, if you’re looking for a CBD product for an animal, be it a dog or a cat or whatever, look at the company. Do they make a quality product for people? And same rules apply, lab results, is it clear labeling, do you know what you’re giving your pet? Stuff like that? You probably won’t have to worry about the flavor as much with most of your pets that you’re just going to put on their food, but dosage is really tough. Do you guys have any thoughts on dosage for an animal?

Kit O’Connell:
You know, people ask what’s the difference between a pet and a human tincture and one of the biggest differences, of course, is the pet tinctures usually come in a lower dose, and that’s part of it is it’s just you want to start really small.

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Kit O’Connell:
You want to start with a really low dose on your animals. And usually a good brand is going to have some advice for pounds for what that product is. The ones I’ve been using recently with our animals, like HolistaPet, they’re a brand that we reviewed recently, and Populum is another great brand that has a pet tincture. And they usually have some guidance on where to start, but it’s usually just it’s start real small. You’re not going to hurt your animal, but there is a risk that you could make them pretty drowsy if you give them a little too much.

Matt Baum:
Definitely.

Kit O’Connell:
So it’s not dissimilar from us. Just remember to … They’re real small compared to our body weight, and so adjust your dose accordingly.

Matt Baum:
I have a pug named Mabel, and Mabel she lost her … She didn’t lose her back legs, but they’re paralyzed, and she was in a lot of pain and so we started using the Populum as well, and it’s worked really well. But I will say when I started, I was definitely giving her too much and she ate her dinner and she wasn’t in pain and she was so comfortable that she just went straight to sleep. And I was like, “Oh, okay. That might be a little heavy.” But I did talk to my vet about it and they said, what you said. It’s not going to hurt the animal, but yeah, you could knock it out. So if that is happening, I mean, if your pet is having trouble sleeping, maybe that’s a good thing, but maybe you want them to be around and enjoy their life and stuff. So again, low and slow. Go very light. Make sure you have a reputable brand. You said a HolistaPet was one.

Kit O’Connell:
Yeah, and Populum is another brand that we like, too.

Drew De Los Santos:
PhytoLogica also has good pet drops.

Kit O’Connell:
Also, I’ve been giving our cats … Mission Farms has a beef-flavored CBD and they love that.

Matt Baum:
Oh, nice. Yep. That could be one that’s a little weird on the human palette, but yeah, I can see your animal digging that. What is the … Pure American Hemp as well. They have Bane’s Bites, which are treats that are named after the guy that started the company. He was a first responder that I interviewed on the show. Super cool guy and they’re little CBD treats. And I will say they came in handy when we were raising our other pug who was a puppy and he’d get a little too spastic and I’d be like, “Hey, what if we had a treat at the end of the day?” And he’d be like, “Yeah,” just kind of chill out and do his thing afterward. I was like, “[inaudible 00:13:07].”

Drew De Los Santos:
My family has a little dachshund, miniature dachshund, and also a big German shepherd. And they both have their own issues. The dachshund has teeth issues.

Matt Baum:
Oh, yeah.

Drew De Los Santos:
And the German Shepherd is really anxious and they both use CBD. I really liked the treats, you know?

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Drew De Los Santos:
Because then you don’t have to worry about dosing. It’s usually two milligrams to five milligrams and you can just give them the treat real easy, like a normal treat. It’s great.

Matt Baum:
Yeah. I think the Bane’s Bites were something like two milligrams per treat, which was great, because it was like I could give it to Mabel as well and it wouldn’t knock her out and you know exactly what you’re giving them, which is pretty cool. So there you go. That’s a great one. All right. This is one that this is a cool question. And this is a question that we will make us say, “Hey, we’re not doctors, so don’t take any medical advice from us,” but we can talk about this.

Is it safe to use CBD during pregnancy?

Speaker 6:
Hey, I just had a quick question about using CBD while I’m pregnant. I was using CBD oil before I was pregnant for cramps, and I just want to know if it is safe to continue to use that during my pregnancy. Thanks.

Matt Baum:
So Kit and I got this question before, and we both kind of went, “I don’t know, but I wouldn’t do it.” At the time, there wasn’t a whole lot out there. Is there any new info that you guys know about pregnancy and CBD?

Drew De Los Santos:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah, I mean, the research is still ongoing, but lately, most recently, there was a study that was published in Nature Scientific Reports, and it seems like cannabis used early in pregnancy can cause major malformations in both the face and brain development.

Matt Baum:
Oh, wow.

Drew De Los Santos:
So yeah, and we already know that THC is not good for babies.

Matt Baum:
Right.

Drew De Los Santos:
So it doesn’t seem recommended. And even the American Academy of Pediatrics had recommended against cannabis use. So I know that there’s some people who have been using CBD, but it seems like overall it’s like use caution and maybe look towards other … Work with your doctor, work with your doula, or whoever, to find another alternative for if you have symptoms that you need relief from.

Matt Baum:
It’s like your mileage may vary, and we’re not going to sit here and say, “It’s going to kill your child,” but there is evidence out there, like you said, with THC that yes, it can be bad for fetuses. So play it safe is basically where we’re at. Play it safe. I would say don’t do it. There’s other stuff out there that’ll help you with cramps and pain and stuff like that, and this might be the one case where … We say a lot CBD is not going to hurt you. You can’t overdose on it and stuff like that. Pregnancy is just a whole different animal, if you will.

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah.

Matt Baum:
And play it safe. I think that’s [crosstalk 00:16:13]

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah. And it’s hard to do research on it, because it involves a baby and a pregnant women and it’s very sensitive, so there’s not a lot of … There’s no human trials. They just do it on mice and zebra fish, because I guess they have the same kind of development as a human embryo.

Matt Baum:
Weird.

Drew De Los Santos:
But yeah, I know. But even in those cases, it’s not good. It’s leads to deformation, so yeah, use caution.

Matt Baum:
Yeah. That’s one of those things that we don’t really think about, but yeah, you’re not going to get a lot of pregnant women going, “Yes, I’d like to sign up for a experimental drug trial on my unborn baby. That sounds great. How much does it pay? I’m in,” you know?

Drew De Los Santos:
In these times, maybe.

Matt Baum:
Yeah. Who knows? I’m not going to judge you if you do whatever. You know, times are tight, but …

Drew De Los Santos:
It’s true.

Matt Baum:
Ministry of Hemp says don’t do it. Play it safe. So there you go. Moving right along here.

Is ‘ditch weed’ just wild hemp?

Rinell:
What’s up, man? My name is [Rinell 00:17:08] and I was calling, had a question about ditch weed, that stuff that we found and smoked as kids. Hemp or marijuana?

Matt Baum:
I love this question.

Kit O’Connell:
Great question.

Matt Baum:
I think he said his name was Rinell, but I couldn’t really hear him. I love this question, and we did a show not too long ago where we talked to … What was the name? Kelly Rippel, sorry, from Kansas. And Kelly was talking about how back in the day, the University of Kansas literally strapped poison to students’ backs and sent them out into fields to try and kill hemp plants, because they were trying to eradicate it, basically. And they couldn’t do it. They literally could not do it. Now. This is probably leftover hemp from stuff that grew along the river, right? Back in the day?

Kit O’Connell:
Most likely, yeah. That’s probably what you’re getting. Of course, you know, hemp and marijuana, they are the same plant. The big difference is the chemical composition, but they are dramatically different. We always used to joke that you’d smoke that stuff and just get a headache.

Matt Baum:
Right.

Kit O’Connell:
And that’s because it just really, it was probably being grown for food or fiber back in the day, maybe even World War II when they encouraged farmers to grow hemp, and it just stuck around. It is such a hardy plant that it’s not good hemp growing on the river, but it’s hemp. It’s managed to survive and reproduce itself, most likely.

Matt Baum:
It’s like feral cats, right? Like at one point, yes, it was controlled and it was this thing and then this cat escaped and it made cat babies in the wild and now they are not pets anymore. They are feral.

Kit O’Connell:
There’s a famous case where a there’s a Valley in Australia where they spent a decade just trying to eradicate. It was just full, wall-to-wall, full of cannabis and all the local students famously would go hike in there and smoke this type of weed that was growing there. And that was clearly also hemp used to grow all over Australia and they are starting to grow it again. So the funny thing is we’re bringing it back to all those lands.

Matt Baum:
The chances are that someone was growing. Is there a chance, I should say, that someone was growing weed and it got out and got wild? Possibly.

Kit O’Connell:
Possibly.

Matt Baum:
Is there a much better chance that this is just hemp that was left over that was growing amongst other plants? I feel like ditch weed is a lost term. Drew, do you know ditch weed?

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah.

Matt Baum:
I mean you’re-

Drew De Los Santos:
No. Yeah. We were talking about it. I was like, I think I’m a little young to experience the legend of ditch weed. Skip school to go look in a ditch for weed or anything, unfortunately.

Matt Baum:
It’s old guys like Kit and I. We grew up and there were guys slightly older than us and they’d be like, “Check this out, bro. It’s totally marijuana.” And you’re like, “What? It’s just here? It’s just growing by the Conoco? Oh my God.” And yeah, it wasn’t marijuana. It never was. And as many times as we tried to smoke it or whatever, we just got a headache and chances are it was unfortunately just hemp. Now, like you said, that’s testament to how hardy this plant is. It’s very hard to kill, and once it gets going and takes root, it’s going to be there. So little something for the farmers there. It’s easy to grow. It’s a weed, okay?

Drew De Los Santos:
It’s also like you can’t control seeds, you know what I mean?

Matt Baum:
Right.

Drew De Los Santos:
You can’t control a plant. The wind’s going to take it. It’s going to grow. It’s going to find a way to grow one way or another.

Matt Baum:
Absolutely. And like Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky, any of these southern states, it’s perfect weather for this stuff. It’s hot, it’s humid, and it just grows and it flowers and it spreads spores and it makes hemp babies. And again, this is not the beautiful hemp that you probably want to make CBD out of, or maybe even fiber. This is feral, leftover hemp, if you will. Okay, next question here.

What’s the difference between CBD and kratom?

Speaker 8:
Hi there. I had a quick question for the show regarding the differences between kratom and CBD. My understanding is that they basically do the same thing when you take them, and my question was why is CBD so much more expensive than kratom, and if I’ve got it wrong and they’re different, what are the differences between the two? Thanks a bunch, take care.

Matt Baum:
I love this. We recently ran a story about kratom and CBD, differences and whatnot, on our site, and I found out I don’t know anything about kratom. Literally nothing. I thought it was an upper. I had no clue. I thought it was like trucker speed or something.

Kit O’Connell:
And it’s actually, it’s closer to an opiate, which is one of the uses for it. Now this is not something that’s doctor approved, but a lot of kratom consumers say that they’ve used it to ease themselves off of opiate addiction, so that’s pretty cool. That is something also we’ve heard about CBD and cannabis is it’s been useful for people to ease themselves off of other addictions.

Matt Baum:
Sure.

Kit O’Connell:
So there are some similarities. People use kratom for pain, sometimes people use CBD for pain, but the way they work is actually very different. Kratom is going to plug into that, those opiate parts of your brain, whereas CBD is plugging into your whole endocannabinoid system. This whole part of your body runs all through your nervous system and all through your body that responds to cannabinoid chemicals. So they have a totally different method of action. But beyond that though, there’s a lot of differences in terms of the safety profile. There are people who report getting actually addicted to kratom, which is not something that we’re going to see with CBD, of course. There’s nothing to get addicted to there really. And we’ve even seen some reports of people dying from taking kratom supplements. Now those were probably very impure supplements, but that’s not something we’ve ever seen with CBD. People have died.

Matt Baum:
So not like a kratom … Can you overdose on kratom?

Kit O’Connell:
I don’t know the answer to that. It’s possible. I’m not sure that it might be, but you certainly … It’s more likely that you could than with CBD, but I really don’t know the answer to that.

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Kit O’Connell:
My understanding those people didn’t necessarily die from kratom overdoses. I can’t really speak to that, but there was impurities, they were poorly made supplements, which probably also brings us to the other point to make is that cheap kratom that you’re seeing at the gas station, just like CBD at the gas station, it’s not good.

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Kit O’Connell:
Good kratom is also going to cost you some money.

Matt Baum:
That’s one thing like … I always saw Kratom at the check cashing place where you can also buy cigarettes and a burner cell phone or something, and always just thought, well, first of all, I had no idea what it was. Is it a plant? What is kratom?

Kit O’Connell:
It is a plant. It was a plant that actually I believe had ritual uses originally and just had cultural uses, commonplace cultural uses. I think people chewed it if I’m not mistaken in leaf form.

Matt Baum:
Really? Wow.

Kit O’Connell:
Yeah. But what you’re going to get over here is a powdered form, basically, which people, they mix it into stuff or they take it like a capsule. So it’s usually like a greenish powder and there’s different varieties of it, which are supposed to help out in different ways, but I can’t speak to that. I know it’s just like that with cannabis, there’s different strains of it.

Matt Baum:
Sure, sure. So kratom, like CBD, I assume it seems to have been around a lot longer, like kratom has been in these gas stations and quick shops for years now. CBD is just popping up in those really cheap markets. It’s garbage. I’m not saying go buy it, do not buy it, okay? But it seems like kratom had a much easier time. Do you think that is because the only difference is kratom doesn’t look like marijuana?

Don’t buy any supplements in gas stations

Kit O’Connell:
Yeah, that’s probably it, and I mean, that is one of the reasons that I’ve seen some that go into that, that they have considered banning it recently. Especially since those deaths, they FDA’s raised concerns and the DEA has considered scheduling it. So that’s something to consider before you start taking kratom. If you feel like it helps you, it might go away, which it doesn’t really look like CBD is going to go away anytime soon.

Matt Baum:
Right.

Kit O’Connell:
It looks like it’s becoming more and more available. So even if kratom helps you, just keep in mind it’s something the government’s trying to ban and while we don’t necessarily agree with it, I wouldn’t want my painkiller to disappear.

Matt Baum:
Totally.

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah. I remember one of my friends was trying to kratom, and I feel like it has a way more intense effect on people than CBD, in terms of that elevated feeling or feeling a little drunk versus CBD, where it’s just like, “Okay, I’m getting a supplement type of feeling or feeling calm.” So that’s something that’s interesting to me. Also, it reminds me of when salvia was more readily available, and then they-

Matt Baum:
Yeah, I forgot about that.

Drew De Los Santos:
Yeah, it was super intense, right?

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Drew De Los Santos:
And people would just go on these trips. Kratom is not as intense as salvia, I don’t think. But yeah. Then all of a sudden it was banned and you can’t buy it at Planet K or other smoke shops or whatever.

Matt Baum:
Yeah, there was the video of the girl that like ran through the glass window and stuff on salvia. And it’s like this is legal? Oh my God.

Kit O’Connell:
That is something that these are both plants they had a place in the cultures where they grew, where people knew how to handle them in safe and healthy ways, and then they got brought here and sold as just junk in gas stations and people got hurt.

Matt Baum:
Yeah.

Kit O’Connell:
And so I guess that there’s probably a lesson to draw from that if we want to.

Matt Baum:
I think it’s just wild that something like kratom, which is arguably more powerful, has a straight up opiate effect, had little or no problem invading America. But for some reason CBD, because it comes from a plant that looks like a marijuana leaf, we can’t have that around. Even marijuana, it sounds like it’s tamer than the kratom experience that you’re explaining to me. I know some people that have used THC, cannabis, to get off, yeah, opiates and some hard drugs and stuff like that. But I mean, this sounds like we’re talking about methadone almost. It sounds kind of scary to me.

Matt Baum:
I would assume there is high quality kratom out there. It’s probably expensive. There’s probably people that are doing it right, just like CBD. I can’t give you advice on how to buy it if you want, but I would say if you’re concerned, if you’re looking at buying CBD and making a choice to buy kratom because it is cheaper, I would argue that’s not a good choice to make, because if it is cheaper, there’s a chance that it’s garbage. I mean, absolute garbage.

Matt Baum:
And again, it’s not FDA regulated. Right now, it’s Wild West for kratom out there as well. Kit brought up kratom killed some people. CBD didn’t. Lot of good checks in the CBD boxes and a lot of bad ones in the kratom ones. I’m not trying to demonize the plan itself or anyone who’s using it responsibly and it’s working for them. Good for you. Just make sure you know what you’re getting and don’t buy it from your quick shop. Don’t buy anything, CBD or kratom or any supplement, not from a gas station. Just don’t. My rules, if they sell cigarettes there, don’t buy supplements from them, and you’re probably going to be doing good.

Final thoughts from Drew, Kit and Matt

Matt Baum:
Guys, this was-

Drew De Los Santos:
Good rule.

Matt Baum:
Yeah, right? Guys, this was great. Thank you so much for joining me and answering a bunch of questions and let’s do this again soon.

Kit O’Connell:
You got it.

Drew De Los Santos:
Definitely.

Matt Baum:
Awesome.

Matt Baum:
That brings us to the end of another episode of the Ministry of Hemp podcast. Huge thanks to everybody that called in with these fantastic questions, by the way. These were really great and a lot of fun to answer. And like I said in the beginning, if you have questions, you can call us and leave a message with your question at 402-819-6417, or you can hit us up on Facebook/Ministry of Hemp, or hit us up on Twitter, @ministryofhemp, or shoot me an email, [email protected]. I would love to hear from you and I would love to answer your question. If you’re a brand, however, contact [email protected] and she’ll get you taken care of.

Matt Baum:
Thanks so much Kit and Drew for joining me today. And if you need more Ministry of Hemp in your life, you can follow us at all of our social medias that I just mentioned. By the way, over at ministryofhemp.com, we have an excellent article up about CBD bioavailability and why it matters. It’s all about exploring the science of CBD, and there is science here. There’s people that are lying about it and there’s people that are doing it right, and I encourage you to go check this out and learn about the actual science behind CBD.

Matt Baum:
If you like what you’re hearing on the show and you enjoy what we do on ministryofhemp.com and you think it’s important and you want to become an advocate for hemp. I implore you, go check out our Patreon. It’s patreon.com/ministryofhemp, and become a Ministry of Hemp insider. You get access to podcast extras, extra articles, early articles, all kinds of cool stuff, but more importantly, you help us to spread the good word of hemp education. And for those of you who have already signed up and are supporting, I cannot thank you enough. Seriously, thank you guys.

Matt Baum:
Here at Ministry of Hemp, we believe that an accessible world is a better world for everyone, so we have a full, written transcript of this episode in the show notes. Next week on the show, I’m going to be talking to the CEO of HempFlax. They are one of the largest hemp producers in Europe and they are involved in so many different aspects and industries, representing literally every part of the hemp plant down to the dust that comes off it when they’re making fibers. It’s an amazing interview and I hope you’re there for it.

Matt Baum:
Right now it’s time for me to get out of here, and I like to end the show the same way by saying remember to take care of yourself, take care of others, and make good decisions, will you? This is Matt Baum with the Ministry of Hemp, signing off.

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Speaker 0 00:00:00 I'm at balm. And this is the ministry of hemp podcast brought to you by ministry of hemp.com. America's leading advocate for him and have education. Welcome back to another episode of the ministry of hemp podcast. I apologize. I missed last week. Life gets in the way sometimes, but here we are. And today on the show, I'm gonna make it up to you by answering your hemp questions that you guys leave on our voicemail, you can call us at any time, 24 hours a day, (402) 819-6417. Now I just want to stress. We're not selling hemp or CBD or anything like that. So don't call it, asking how to buy it. Now, if you want any advice on brands and whatnot, you can find that all over ministry of hemp.com and I encourage you to go there and use it that way, but we're not selling CBD. Speaker 0 00:01:02 We're also not the phone number to call. If you want to network with us or perhaps you're a brand that wants to work with us, that's not the place to do it. This phone number is for people that want answers to their hemp questions. How much do I take? What's a good brand. Will this help me sleep? Did I buy garbage? These are all great questions. You can ask, call and leave your question. Don't leave me your phone number and ask me to call you back. I'm not going to do that, but what I will do is I will answer your questions on the show. And today I'm super excited because I don't just have kiddo Connell, our editor in chief answering questions. We are also joined by drew dealer Santos. I affectionately refer to her as our brand ambassador, but you'll hear she has an actual title and she's really good at it. So let's get into it. Okay. I am back with our editor in chief kit, say, hello, kit. Hey everybody. And we have a new guest that's gonna help us out today. This is drew. And we were discussing her title before this cause we want it to sound really professional. So we decided on brand ambassador. Was that it? Speaker 1 00:02:15 Brand manager? Yeah. Ambassador. Hey, everybody royalty, right? Yeah. Speaker 0 00:02:24 So what do you do? Administrative hemp, just a quick little breakdown. Speaker 1 00:02:28 I basically work with all of the brands that we review and make sure that we get all of our products tested as well as just helping along the flow of the magazine to make sure from start to finish things, get tied up nicely. And sometimes I also do product reviews. Speaker 0 00:02:47 That's awesome. You're going to help us today and answering some questions, but as you heard, drew works directly with the brands. We are not a brand. And I'm just saying that because we get a lot of calls for people saying, I want to buy something. We're not Speaker 2 00:03:00 Selling anything. We are pushing education. So there you go. And if you are a brand calling us for drew, we'll get you set up. So I was just happy to talk with them and happy to be here. Awesome. Let's get started. Our first one comes from Gregory in Florida. Speaker 3 00:03:19 Yeah. Uh, my name is Gregory and, uh, Connie on from the state of Florida. I am just wondering if you can give me some additional information with regards to, uh, CBD oil. It's very confusing when you look at the 2000 milligrams of him and then the, uh, but the bottom of that bottle, um, six to six, um, I dunno, exactly six to six milligrams of the extract. So I was just wondering, how does that equate from a 2000 to 66? Uh, Chanetta gram. And then also I found out that the CBD oils, some of them are very thick and others are like watery. So I know that there, there are lots of different compounds that are being put into these doors, but this was formerly, if you can address some of these issues, okay, Speaker 2 00:04:29 I'm going to stop him there because he gives his phone number and we don't need everybody calling our friend, Greg. But basically this is a great question. And we have done this one before, but I think it's really good to reset because CBD labels can be very confusing if you don't know about this stuff. And it sounds like he has got a 2000 milliliter bottle, basically. Pardon me? Milligram bottle. Thank you, kit. And it also says 66 milligrams on it, which is confusing him. Kick, can you help clear this one up a little bit? Yeah, it is confusing. And the first thing to say is that there are no standards in CBD labeling currently. There's no authority. The FDA hasn't issued any standards for CBD. We're waiting on that as of right now. So brands are left up to themselves, how to do it. But in this case, 2000 milligrams, what you probably have there as a one ounce or 30 milliliter bottle and each dropper full out of that, each dropper fill it to the top. Speaker 2 00:05:32 That's one milliliter. So there's 30 of those in the bottom. So if you divide 2000 milligrams by 30, you get 66 milligrams, which is how much you'd get. If you took a full dropper full of CBD, uh, which for some people is a normal dose. Some people it's a high dose. We always of course say, start low, go slow. Right? The other, the other half of the question was about like the consistency of the, and that's an interesting question, you know, that doesn't, I don't think that has much to do with what your actual CBD extract in there. It could be good. It could be bad, but they take that extract and then they mix it. The majority of what you're taking is, is a carrier oil. And that can be hemp seed oil, or it could be something called MCT, which is like a coconut based oil. Speaker 2 00:06:21 Usually occasionally it's still Palm base. Um, and so when you're looking at that, that's just, it's based on how they're taking an extract and mixed it into an oil. And it's kind of just personal preference, whether you like a thicker or thinner oil, it's not necessarily a Mark of quality is what you're saying, right? Exactly. Yeah. You can have a thick oil or thin oil and that's just a quest sister. It's just a qualitative thing about it, but you still could have a really good quality oil that could be thick or thin. So the most important thing to really look for is one, is there some type of dosage map on the label? And it sounds like this one is, and you cleared that up really well. Thank you to do they have results, lab results that are available for this product. And it might be a QR code or a website you can visit on the bottle, but those would probably be the two biggest things you want to look for. Right? Exactly. And beyond that, it's going to be personal preference. It'd be like those ones that tastes a little thin are the ones that have a thicker consistency, right. Or like different flavors are added to some of them. Other other companies use a very natural flavor that can turn some people off. I kind of dig it personally. I actually like kind of a, a ham Somalia sometimes coming up with all the different flavors, like green earthy. Yeah. Greater grassy. I loved, I love all the flankers too drew. Where do you come down on flavors? Speaker 1 00:07:52 Um, I definitely love a lemony terpene heavy type of flavor, but then of course, um, every so often a brand will come out with one that has a good like overlay of some other flavor. Um, like, I mean, I really do like citrusy. Um, but I don't mind the Hempy flavor either. Speaker 2 00:08:14 I really like it actually. And I feel like some of the brands when they get out there was sort of like, Oh, mango, strawberry and stuff. I get a little there. It freaks me out. It starts to taste really fake, you know? Speaker 1 00:08:26 Yeah. It can be too much if they add too many different flavors. Yeah. I was going to say though, I haven't really tried an oil. That's very liquidy. So if it's like super watery, that's like a little concerning to me. Um, just cause I've never, I haven't really tried a brand that has that type of consistency. Speaker 2 00:08:44 Yeah. I've had some that are a thinner, but I don't know that I would describe them as liquidy, I suppose that could worry me a little bit. But then again, maybe that's just the adjective he chose. I Speaker 0 00:08:56 Think more importantly, research the company, make sure that they have lab results, find something that tastes good to you and know what your dosage is and you'll be okay. Yep. Oh right. Moving right along. Speaker 2 00:09:12 Hey guys, I heard your recent show about CDB and about dogs with arthritis. Are there any bands you would suggest and what kind of dosage would you suggest for an 80 pound dog? Thanks a lot people. The good work. Speaker 0 00:09:26 Okay. I really liked this question and we just did a show about CBD, helping dogs with arthritis because of the anti-inflammatory properties. Now, with that said there isn't a whole lot of studies out there about animal pain and CBD yet. This is the story that we just talked about on the show. This would have been our last episode was a very promising study and like so promising that they're doing more and it looks like they're going to be able to publish like some real results, which is great. Now that doesn't necessarily help you. I would say again, if you're looking for a CBD product for an animal, be it a dog or cat or whatever, look at the company, do they make a quality product for people and same rules apply lab results. Is it clear labeling? Do you know what you're giving your pet stuff like that? You probably won't have to worry about the flavor as much with most of your pets did. You're just going to put on their food, but dosage is really tough. Do you guys have any like thoughts on dosage for an animal? Speaker 2 00:10:32 You know, people ask like, what's the difference between a pet and human tincture? And one of the biggest differences of course is like the pet tinctures usually come in a lower dose and that's part of it is it's just like, you want to start really small. Yeah. You want to start with a really low dose on your animals. Uh, and usually a good brand is going to have some advice for pounds for what that product is like, the ones I've been taking using recently with Aryan, uh, like Calista pet, uh, they, they're a brand that we reviewed recently and populum, uh, is another great brand that has a pet tincture. And they usually have some guidance on where to start, but it's usually just, it's starting real small. You're not gonna hurt your animal, but there is a risk that you could make them pretty drowsy if you give them a little too much. Definitely. So it's not too similar from us. Just remember to, to, you know, they're real small compared to our body weight. And so adjust your dose accordingly. Speaker 0 00:11:27 I have a pug named Mabel and Mabel. She lost her that she didn't lose her back legs, but they're paralyzed. And she was in a lot of pain. And so we started using the populum as well. And it's worked really well. But I will say when I started, I was definitely giving her too much and she ate her dinner and she wasn't in pain and she was so comfortable that she just went straight to sleep. And I was like, Oh, okay. Be a little heavy. But I did talk to my vet about it. And they said, what you said, like, it's not going to hurt the animal, but yeah, you could knock it out. So if that is happening, I mean, if you, if your pet is having trouble sleeping, maybe that's a good thing, but I mean, you want them to be around and enjoy their life and stuff. So again, low and slow go very light. Make sure you have a reputable brand. You said a holistic pet was one. Yeah. And populism is another brand that we like to Speaker 1 00:12:21 Fight. A Logica also has a good pet drops. Also. I've been giving our cats, our mission farms has a beef flavored and they love that. Speaker 0 00:12:34 That could be one, that's a little weird on the human palette, but yeah, I can see, I can see your animal digging that, uh, American, what was the pure American hemp as well? They have, uh, Banes bites, which are treats that are named after the guy that started the company. He was a first responder that I interviewed on the show, super cool guy and their little CBD treats. And I will say they came in handy when we were raising our other pug who was a puppy and he'd get a little too spastic and I'd be like, Hey, what if we had a tree at the end of the day? And he'd be like, yeah. And just kinda chill out and do his thing after that round Speaker 1 00:13:09 Because my family has a little, uh, docs in miniature docs in, and also a big German shepherd. And they both have their own issues. Like the docksin has like teeth issues and, and the German shepherd is really anxious and they both use CBD. And it's nice when, like, I really liked the treats, you know, because then you don't have to worry about dosing. That's like they usually like two milligrams to five milligrams and you can just, you know, give them the treat real easy, like a normal treat. It's great. Speaker 0 00:13:40 Yeah. I think the Banes bites were something like two milligrams per tree, which was great. Cause it was like, I could give it to Mabel as well and it wouldn't knock her out and you know exactly what you're giving them, which is pretty cool. So, so there you go. That's a great one. All right. This is one that this is a cool question. And this is a question that we will make us say, Hey, we're not doctors, so don't take any medical advice from us, but we can talk about this. Speaker 1 00:14:07 Hey, quick question about using CBD while I'm pregnant. I was using CBD oil before it was pregnant for cramps. And I just want to know if it is safe to continue to use that during my pregnancy. Speaker 0 00:14:26 So kitten, I got this question before and we both kind of went, I don't know, but I wouldn't do it. Is there at the time there wasn't a whole lot out there. Is there any new info that you guys know about pregnancy and CBD? Speaker 1 00:14:42 Yeah. I mean, the research is still ongoing, but lately most recently there was a study that was published in scientific reports and it seems like cannabis used early in pregnancy can cause major mouthful, malformations in both the face and brain development. So yeah. And we already know that THC is not good for babies. Um, so it's kind of, it doesn't seem recommended. And even the American Academy of pediatrics had recommended against cannabis use. So I know that there's some people who have been using CBD, but I seems like overall it's like use caution and maybe look towards other, you know, work with your doctor or with your dealer or whoever to find another alternative for. Um, you know, if you have symptoms that you need relief from Speaker 0 00:15:34 Your mileage may vary and we're not going to sit here and say, it's going to kill your child, but there is evidence out there, like you said, with THC that yes, it can be bad for fetuses. So play it safe is based on where we're at, play it safe. I would say, don't do it. There's other stuff out there that'll help you, you know, with cramps and pain and stuff like that. And this might be the one case where we say a lot CBD is not going to hurt you. You can't overdose on it and stuff like that. Pregnancy is just a whole different animal, if you will. Yeah. And play it safe. I think that's Speaker 1 00:16:12 Yeah. And it's hard. It's hard to do research on it because you know, it involves a baby and pregnant women and this like, Oh, that's very sensitive. So there's not a lot of, there's no human trials. They just do it on, on mice. Um, and like zebra fish, because I guess they have the same kind of development as a human embryo. Weird. But yeah, I know. But like even in those cases, it's, it's not good. It's um, leads to deformation. So yeah. Speaker 0 00:16:40 That's one of those things that you don't really think about, but yeah, you're not going to get a lot of pregnant women going. Yes. I'd like to sign up for the experimental drug trial on my unborn baby. That sounds great. How much does it pay I'm in, you know, Speaker 1 00:16:53 And these times, you know, maybe Speaker 0 00:16:55 I'm not going to judge you if you do whatever, you know, times are tight, but it's true. Ministry of hemp says don't do it, play it safe. So there you go, moving right along here. Okay. Speaker 2 00:17:06 What's up, man? My name is Ronelle and I was calling, I had a question about ditch weed. That's stuff that we found and smoked his kids hemp or marijuana. Speaker 0 00:17:21 Love this question. Uh, Greg, I think he said his name was Ranil, but I couldn't really hear him. So I love this question and we did a show not too long ago where we talked to, what was the name? Matt Kelly ripple, sorry, from Kansas. And Kelly was talking about how back in the day, Kansas literally strapped the university of Kansas, literally strapped poison to students' backs and them out into Speaker 2 00:17:50 Fields to try and kill him plants because they were trying to eradicate it basically. And they couldn't do it. They literally could not do it. Now. This is probably leftover hemp from stuff that grew along the river, right back in the day. Most likely. Yeah. That's probably what you're getting. Of course, you know, hemp and marijuana. They are the same plant, you know, the big differences, the chemical composition, uh, but they are dramatically different. So, so, you know, we always used to joke, they'd smoke that stuff and just get a headache. Right. And that's just really, it was probably being ground for food or fiber back in the day. Maybe even world war two, when they encourage farmers to grow him. And it just stuck around, it is such a Hardy plant that it's not good ham have growing along the river, but it's him, it's managed to survive and, and, and, and reproduce itself. It's like feral cats, right? Like at one point like, yes, it was controlled and it was a thing. And then this cat escaped and it made cat babies in the wild and now they are not pets anymore. Like they are, Speaker 2 00:18:58 There's a famous case where a there's a Valley, uh, in Australia where they spent like a decade just trying to eradicate, it was just full wall, the wall full of cannabis and all the local students like famously we'd go hike in there and smoke weed. It was growing there. And that was clearly also, you know, happiest to grow all over Australia and they are starting to grow it again. So, so the funny thing is, you know, we're kind of bringing it back to all those lands. Like the chances are that someone was growing. Is there a chance I should say that someone was growing weed and it got out and got wild possibly. Is there a much better chance that this is just hemp that was left over, that was growing amongst other plants? Like, I feel like ditch weed is a lost term and like drew, do you know ditch weed? Speaker 1 00:19:49 No. Yeah. We were talking about it. I was like, I think I'm a little young to experience the legend of digitally skipped school to go look in a ditch for weed or anything. Fortunately Speaker 2 00:20:02 Like old guys, like kitten, I, we grew up and like, there were guys slightly older than us and they'd be like, check this out, bro. It's totally marijuana. And you're like, Speaker 1 00:20:11 It's just here. It's just like growing by the Conoco. Oh my God. Speaker 2 00:20:18 Yeah, it wasn't marijuana. It never was. And as many times as we like tried to smoke it or whatever, it would just get a headache and chances are, it was unfortunately just hemp. Now, like you said, that's Testament to how Hardy this plan is. It's very hard to kill. And once it gets going and takes root, it's going to be there. You know? So little something for the farmers there. It's easy to grow. It's a weed. Okay. Speaker 1 00:20:45 It's also like you can't speeds. You know what I mean, control a plant like the is going to take it. It's going to grow. It's going to find a way to grow one way or another. Speaker 2 00:20:56 Absolutely. And like Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky, any of these Southern States, it's perfect weather for this stuff. So it's hot, it's humid and it just grows and it flowers and it spreads spores and it makes hemp babies. And again, this is not the beautiful hemp that you probably want to make CBD out of, or maybe even fiber. This is feral, you know, left over hemp, if you will. Okay, next question here. Hi there. I had a quick question for the show, um, regarding the differences between creative and CBD. Uh, my understanding is that they basically do the same thing when you take them. And my question was why is CBD so much more expensive than crate them? Uh, and if I've got it wrong and they're different, what are the differences between the two? Thanks a bus take care. I love this. And we recently ran a story about creating and CVD, like differences and whatnot on our site. Speaker 2 00:21:52 And I found out, I don't know anything about creating, literally nothing. I thought it was an upper, I had no clue. I thought it was like trucker speed or something. And it's actually, it's closer to an opiate, which is one of the uses for it. Now this is not something that's doctor approved, but a lot of creative consumers say that they've used it to ease themselves off of opiate addiction. So that's pretty cool. That is something also we've heard about CBD and cannabis is that it's been useful for people to eat themselves off of all their addictions. So there are some similarities. People use create them for pain. Sometimes people use CBD for pain, but the way they work is actually very different, uh, create them is, is gonna plug into that those opiate part parts of your brain, whereas CBD is, is, uh, plugging into your whole endocannabinoid system. Speaker 2 00:22:46 This whole part of your body runs all through your nervous system. And you're an author of your body, uh, that responds to cannabinoid chemicals. So they have a totally different, uh, method of action. And, but beyond that though, there's a lot of differences in terms of the safety profile. Um, there are people who report getting actually addicted to create them, which is not something that, you know, we're going to see with CBD. Of course, there's nothing to get addicted to there really. Um, and, uh, we've even seen some reports of people dying from taking creatine supplements. Now those were probably very impure supplements, but that's not something we've ever seen with CBD people have di so not like a creative over, can you overdose on freedom? I don't know the answer to that. It's possible. I'm not sure that it might be, but you certainly it's more likely that you could of with CBD, but I really don't know the answer to that. Speaker 2 00:23:40 It's based on my understanding of people didn't necessarily die from creative overdoses. I can't really speak to that, but there was impurities, they were poorly made supplements, which probably also brings us to the, to the other point to make. Is that a cheap create them that you're seeing like at the gas station, just like CBD at the gas station. It's not good, good. Creative is also going to cost you some money. That's one thing like I always saw create them at, you know, like the check cashing place where you can also buy cigarettes and a burner cell phone or something, you know, I always just thought, well, first of all, I had no idea what it was. Is it a plant? What is cradle? It is a plant. It was a plant that actually, you know, I believe had like ritual uses originally and just kind of cultural uses common place, cultural uses. Speaker 2 00:24:27 I think people shoot it if I'm not mistaken and really form. Wow. Yeah. But what you're going to get over here is a powdered form, basically, which people, uh, they mix it into stuff or they take it like a capsule. Uh, so it's like usually like a greenish powder, uh, and there's different varieties of it, which are supposed to, you know, help out in different ways. But I can't speak to that. I know it's, you know, just like there was cannabis, there's different strains. So create them like CBD. I assume it seems to have been around a lot longer, like create them has been in these gas stations and quick shops for years now, CBD is just kind of popping up in those like really cheap markets. It's garbage. I'm not saying go buy it, do not buy it. Okay. But it seems like create them had a much easier time. Speaker 2 00:25:16 Do you think that is because the only difference is create them doesn't look like marijuana. Yeah. That's probably it. And I mean, that is one of the reasons that I've seen some that go into that they have considered banning it recently there having, especially since those deaths, they FDA's raise concerns and the da is considered scheduling it. So that's something to consider before you start taking creative. If you feel like it helps you, it might go away, which it doesn't really look like CBD is going to go away anytime soon, it looks like it's becoming more and more available. So even at create them helps you, you know, just keep in mind. It's something that is trying to ban. And while we don't necessarily agree with it, that's, you know, I wouldn't want my painkiller to disappear. Speaker 1 00:25:58 Totally. Yeah. I remember like one of my friends was trying to create them and I feel like it has a way more intense effect on people than CBD, you know, like in terms of kind of that elevated feeling or like feeling like a little drunk versus CBD where it's just like, okay, I'm getting a supplement type of feeling or like feeling calm, you know? So that's something that's interesting to me. Um, also it kinda reminds me of when salvia was more readily available and then they, yeah, it was super intense. And like people would just go on these trips. Creative is not as intense as salvia, I don't think. But yeah. Then all of a sudden it was banned and you can buy it at like planet K or other smoke shops or whatever was like the video of the Speaker 0 00:26:44 Girl that like rammed through the glass window and stuff on salvia. And it's like, this is legal. Oh my God, Speaker 2 00:26:52 These are all, you know, both of that. That is something, because these are both plants. They had, you know, uh, a place in the cultures where they grew, where people knew how to handle them in safe and healthy ways, you know? And then they got brought here and sold as you know, just junk and gas stations and people got hurt. And so I guess that was probably a lesson to draw from that if we want to, Speaker 0 00:27:14 I think it's just wild that something like crate them, which is arguably more powerful, has a straight up opiate effect had little or no problem sort of invading America. But for some reason CBD, because it comes from a plant that looks like a marijuana leaf. We can't have that around any even marijuana. It sounds like it's Tamer than the cranium experience you're explaining to me, like I know some people that have used a THC cannabis to get off. Yeah. Like opiates and some hard drugs and stuff like that. But I mean, this sounds like we're talking about methadone. It sounds kind of scary to me. So I would assume there is high quality crate I'm out there. It's probably expensive. There's probably people that are doing it right. Just like CBD. I can't give you advice on how to buy it if you want. But I would say if you're concerned, if you're looking at buying CBD and making a choice to buy crate them, because it is cheaper, I would argue that's not a good choice to make, because if it is cheaper, there's a chance that it's garbage. Speaker 0 00:28:25 I mean, absolute garbage. And again, it's not FDA regulated right now. It's kind of wild West for crate. I'm out there as well. Uh, Kip brought up Korean and killed some people, CVD didn't lot of good checks in the CBD boxes and a lot of bad ones in the creative ones. I'm not trying to demonize the plane itself or anyone is using it responsibly and it's working for them. Good for you. Just make sure you know what you're getting and don't buy it from your quick shop. Don't buy anything CBD or crate them or any supplement, not from a gas station. Just don't my rule is that if they sell cigarettes there, don't buy supplements from them. And you're probably going to be doing good. Speaker 4 00:29:05 You guys, this was wrong. Speaker 0 00:29:08 Yeah. Right guys, this is great. Thank you so much for joining me and answering a bunch of questions and let's do this again soon. Speaker 4 00:29:16 You got it. Definitely awesome. That brings us to the end of Speaker 0 00:29:29 Another episode of the ministry of health podcast. Huge. Thanks to everybody that called in with you. Speaker 4 00:29:35 Fantastic questions by the way, Speaker 0 00:29:37 These were really great and a lot of fun to answer. And like I said, in the beginning, if you have questions, you can call us and leave a message with your question at (402) 819-6417, or you can hit us up on Facebook backslash ministry of hemp, or hit us up on Twitter at ministry of hemp, or shoot me an email. [email protected]. I would love to hear from you. And I would love to answer your question. If you're a brand, however, contact drew, administry of him.com and she'll get you taken care of. Thanks so much to get drew for joining me today. And if you need more ministry of him in your life, you can follow us at all of our social medias that I just mentioned, by the way, [email protected], we have an excellent article up about CBD bioavailability and why it matters. It's all about exploring the science of CBD. Speaker 0 00:30:30 And there is science here. There's people that are lying about it and there's people that are doing it right? And I encourage you, go check this out and learn about the actual science behind CBD. If you like, what you're hearing on this show, and you enjoy what we do on ministry of hemp.com and you think it's important and you want to become an advocate for him. I implore you, go check out our Patrion, patrion.com, backslash ministry of him, and become a ministry of hemp insider. You get access to podcast, extras, extra articles, early articles, all kinds of cool stuff, but more importantly, you help us to spread the good word of hemp education. And for those of you who have already signed up and are supporting, I cannot thank you enough. Seriously. Thank you guys here at ministry of hemp, we believe that an accessible world is a better world for everyone. Speaker 0 00:31:22 So we have a full written transcript of this episode in the show notes. Next week on the show, I'm going to be talking to the CEO of hemp, flax. They are one of the largest hemp producers in Europe, and they are involved in so many different aspects and industries representing literally every part of the hemp plant down to the dust that comes off it. When they're making fibers, it's an amazing interview and I hope you're there for it right now assigned for me to get out of here. And I like to end the show the same way by saying, remember to take care of yourself, take care of others and make good decisions. Will you, this is Matt balm with the ministry, have him sign it. Speaker 4 00:32:04 <inaudible>.

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